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		<title>Crisis!? What crisis?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Last night, BBC Scotland aired a short documentary, A Church in Crisis?, about the Church of Scotland and its current circumstances. The broadcast date marks the anniversary of the Kirk&#8217;s creation following the Scottish Reformation. Peter has already blogged about the programme and notes that it offered a balanced view of the Kirk&#8217;s present [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night, BBC Scotland aired a short documentary, <a title="BBC Scotland - A Church in Crisis" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00tjr1j" target="_blank">A Church in Crisis?</a>, about the Church of Scotland and its current circumstances. The broadcast date marks the anniversary of the Kirk&#8217;s creation following the Scottish Reformation. Peter has <a title="Blantyre St.Andrews - Peter's Blog - A Church in Crisis?" href="http://www.standrewsblantyre.com/index.php/about-us/our-minister/peters-blog/707-a-church-in-crisis" target="_blank">already blogged</a> about the programme and notes that it offered a balanced view of the Kirk&#8217;s present state.</p>
<p>There was the &#8220;What&#8217;s the Kirk ever done for us?&#8221; bit; a reminder of the legacy of that early push for education and literacy which established Scotland as a leader in educational achievement. The Kirk&#8217;s social conscience was highlighted and its impact on today&#8217;s social care noted. Although that place is now filled more and more by local authority groups, the Kirk still has a significant presence in this area. It begs the question though, as a friend recently discussed with me, that perhaps the Kirk has achieved what it set out to do in this area -  show how social care ought to be done &#8211; and now it is time to invest the resources in other work of social inclusion and justice.</p>
<p>However, the outlining of the current state of the Kirk jangled a few nerves. It rightly highlighted falling membership, financial pressures and ministerial resources as areas causing concern. But it phrased them in a slightly disingenuous way I thought. Falling mambership cannot be disputed, but little was made of the changing social culture where &#8216;membership&#8217;, of anything, is increasingly becoming out-of-date. Loose affiliations and fluid loyalties are the characteristics of our present society. Any sort of &#8216;commitment&#8217; has people running a mile. I&#8217;m not suggesting that the numbers attending church are in any way much rosier than they are, but membership numbers alone do not tell the whole story.</p>
<p>The financial situation was also misrepresented. A running deficit of just over £5m is not the same as being &#8220;nearly £6m in the red&#8221; as was reported. Again, I&#8217;m not suggesting this is an acceptable situation, but it ought tohave been reported accurately. Furthermore, little was made of the proposals to address that deficit.</p>
<p>Associated with that was the throwaway comment of &#8220;only four trainees have entered Scotland&#8217;s leading divinity school.&#8221; Now, while I would happily agree with that assessment of New College&#8217;s place in the ordering of things, to ignore the intake at the other institutions is irresponsible and misleading. New College has fallen foul of entrance quota restrictions in its associated University College. Those who have been unable to gain a place have deferred or have gone to one of the other institutions. A fairer report would have been to cite overall numbers in training.</p>
<p>But I want to highlight one final thing in the programme which went entirely unchallenged and has an insidious effect on how we, the Church, approach things. Peter fell into the same trap in his assessment as well. It is stated, without any qualification or justification, that we live in a secular society. I&#8217;m not convinced that this is true. I would, perhaps, have agreed ten or twenty years ago, but not today. Secularism is also fighting a losing battle as many more people begin to see the society of ten, twenty, thirty years ago as heading towards moral bankruptcy. In a similar way to post-war theologians, there is a reaction against the &#8216;me-centred&#8217; doctrines of, in today&#8217;s case, the consumerist state. More people are now looking for &#8216;something else&#8217; to help order their life. There has been, in recent years, an increase in &#8216;spirituality&#8217; in our cultural mindset. The unfortunate thing is that the years of secularism have left many without the vocabulary or grounding of a Christian spirituality. Pic&#8217;n'mix religion has become the order of the day. This, I would suggest, is a very different challenge to the church. It&#8217;s one thing dealing with a society which is entirely indifferent to religion, quite another to deal with people who see all religions as their personal spiritual supermarket to pick and choose from as it suits them.</p>
<p>Without a doubt the Kirk has some hard times ahead but I would tend to agree with Ron Ferguson&#8217;s thoughts towards the end of the programme that a beleaguered church is not necessarily a bad thing.</p>
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		<title>MTh Research</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 08:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>In August 2010 I completed a postgraduate year at the University of Edinburgh, School of Divinity. Following a Masters by Research course, I used the opportunity to investigate the Emerging Church movement particularly as it impacts on the Church of Scotland. I opted to do an essays + short dissertation route as it provided [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In August 2010 I completed a postgraduate year at the University of Edinburgh, School of Divinity. Following a Masters by Research course, I used the opportunity to investigate the Emerging Church movement particularly as it impacts on the Church of Scotland. I opted to do an essays + short dissertation route as it provided scope for wider and more varied study. The fruits of that year &#8211; the three research essays and the dissertation &#8211; may be downloaded from here.</p>
<p>They are not ground-breaking theology or cutting-edge research. Nor are they the work of a dedicated and gifted theologian. They were written largely from the point of view of my own interests as I tried to grasp a little of the bigger picture of the challenges facing the Church of Scotland in a changing society and how engaging with newer forms of church could influence that. In other words, bear this very specific context and background in mind if you wish to shred them &#8216;theologically&#8217;.</p>
<h2><a href="http://johnorr.me.uk/downloads?dl_cat=5" title="View all downloads in MTh Research">MTh Research</a></h2><p><img src="http://johnorr.me.uk/wp-content/plugins/wp-downloadmanager/images/drive_go.gif" alt="Download: Dissertation - Converging Conversations" title="Download: Dissertation - Converging Conversations" style="vertical-align: middle;" />&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong><a href="http://johnorr.me.uk/download/JohnOrr-MThDissertation-ConvergingConversations.pdf" title="Download: Dissertation - Converging Conversations">Dissertation - Converging Conversations</a></strong><br /><strong>&raquo; 480.7 Kb - August 20, 2010</strong><br />MTh dissertation.
The need for 'intentional' dialogue if the Church of Scotland is to engage effectively with new forms of church.</p><p><img src="http://johnorr.me.uk/wp-content/plugins/wp-downloadmanager/images/drive_go.gif" alt="Download: Essay - Tentative Steps towards an Emerging Kirk" title="Download: Essay - Tentative Steps towards an Emerging Kirk" style="vertical-align: middle;" />&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong><a href="http://johnorr.me.uk/download/JohnOrr-Essay-TentativeStepsTowardsAnEmergingKirk.pdf" title="Download: Essay - Tentative Steps towards an Emerging Kirk">Essay - Tentative Steps towards an Emerging Kirk</a></strong><br /><strong>&raquo; 204.1 Kb - August 20, 2010</strong><br />MTh Research Essay 2
An analysis of the Church of Scotland's engagement with Emerging Church through a 2009 report from Ministries Council and Mission and Discipleship Council.</p><p><img src="http://johnorr.me.uk/wp-content/plugins/wp-downloadmanager/images/drive_go.gif" alt="Download: Essay - Looking Beyond the Labels" title="Download: Essay - Looking Beyond the Labels" style="vertical-align: middle;" />&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong><a href="http://johnorr.me.uk/download/JohnOrr-Essay-LookingBeyondTheLabels.pdf" title="Download: Essay - Looking Beyond the Labels">Essay - Looking Beyond the Labels</a></strong><br /><strong>&raquo; 206.2 Kb - August 20, 2010</strong><br />MTh Research Essay 1
An investigation of some of the underlying issues behind some of the 'post-' labels commonly associated with Emerging Church.</p><p><img src="http://johnorr.me.uk/wp-content/plugins/wp-downloadmanager/images/drive_go.gif" alt="Download: Essay - Unity In Diversity" title="Download: Essay - Unity In Diversity" style="vertical-align: middle;" />&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong><a href="http://johnorr.me.uk/download/JohnOrr-Essay-UnityInDiversity.pdf" title="Download: Essay - Unity In Diversity">Essay - Unity In Diversity</a></strong><br /><strong>&raquo; 270.5 Kb - August 20, 2010</strong><br />Mth Research Essay - Barth Course
Using the creedal church mark of 'One', this essay critiques Emerging Church from a Barthian perspective.</p><a rel="license" href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/scotland/">
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		<title>Geneva reflections</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 07:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>From the 10th to the 14th of June, I had the pleasure of spending time in Geneva with other candidates and some staff from New College. The trip was part of a rolling series of visits which include Rome and Jerusalem. I skipped the Rome trip last year as I was in Brussels. The [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a rel="lightbox[2010-5-4-8-49-2]" href="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_26tkXeJFOlc/TBZZgbhrwfI/AAAAAAAADo8/orLvF3CoQIE/IMG_4031.JPG?imgmax=640"><img class="pie-img alignleft" style="margin: 10px;" title="Geneva" src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_26tkXeJFOlc/TBZZgbhrwfI/AAAAAAAADo8/orLvF3CoQIE/s160-c/IMG_4031.JPG" alt="IMG_4031.JPG" width="160" height="160" /></a>From the 10th to the 14th of June, I had the pleasure of spending time in Geneva with other candidates and some staff from New College. The trip was part of a rolling series of visits which include Rome and Jerusalem. I skipped the Rome trip last year as I was in Brussels. The trips are intended to be educational as well as fun and help set both the academic work and general Christian understanding in a broader world context.</p>
<p>Geneva, of course, was one of the wellsprings of the Protestant Reformation, famous largely, but not exclusively, as the place where Calvin taught and preached. But Geneva is also home to major world organisations: the UN, World Health Organisation, the International Committee of the Red Cross, UNHCR and many others. The group had the pleasure of visiting the World Council of Churches to get a flavour of the work they do and their vision for world Christianity.</p>
<p>We also took the chance to visit the cathedral, including the Sunday morning service, and we were able to worship with the Church of Scotland congregation in the Auditoire de Calvin which sits just to one side of the square occupied by the cathedral. Nikki and I also had the privilege of leading our evening devotions in the Auditoire on Friday evening. She&#8217;s <a title="Nikki's blog - A Pilgrim's Process" href="http://apilgrimsprocess.blogspot.com/2010/06/that-most-perfect-school-of-christ.html" target="_blank">written about it here</a> and I still can&#8217;t quite get over how some silly ideas came together in the way they did. I&#8217;m still not convinced that Calvin would have entirely approved, but it was so very appropriate for the occasion.</p>
<p>Add to that some sight-seeing time, an excellent art gallery and some great company and it was an excellent long weekend. I&#8217;ll post some more reflections on specific parts of the trip in due course. My photo album from the trip can be found <a title="Geneva photo album" href="http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/johnkorr/Geneva2010" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Glutton for punishment</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d think that starting probation in September would be enough to be going on with and that writing a dissertation on the Church of Scotland&#8217;s relationship with Emerging Church would keep things ticking over in the meantime. However, a tentative enquiry about the Mission Shaped Ministry courses has now resulted in the Candidates&#8217; Task [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d think that starting probation in September would be enough to be going on with and that writing a dissertation on the Church of Scotland&#8217;s relationship with Emerging Church would keep things ticking over in the meantime. However, a tentative enquiry about the <a title="Mission Shaped Ministry course information" href="http://www.freshexpressions.org.uk/missionshapedministry/" target="_blank">Mission Shaped Ministry</a> courses has now resulted in the Candidates&#8217; Task Group giving me the go-ahead to take the course starting in September. I&#8217;m a bit of a &#8216;test case&#8217; (maybe that should read head-case) to see if it&#8217;s do-able. Strictly speaking you are not supposed to undertake additional training courses during probation, but this one is very much about where the CofS want to focus in the future, so they&#8217;re taking the opportunity to see if it fits with probation work as well. Useful as well to be able to compare the academic (dissertation) with the practical.</p>
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		<title>This is not a public discussion (honest)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 10:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>In the spirit of not making any public statements, but encouraging discussion and understanding of the subject which cannot be named (why do I feel like we&#8217;re in a Harry Potter story?) I would like to point to some good and thought-provoking articles which were themselves pointed to in JohnFH&#8216;s blog which I sometimes [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the spirit of not making any public statements, but encouraging discussion and understanding of the subject which cannot be named (why do I feel like we&#8217;re in a Harry Potter story?) I would like to point to some good and thought-provoking articles which were themselves <a title="Ancient Hebrew Poetry - Is it possible" href="http://ancienthebrewpoetry.typepad.com/ancient_hebrew_poetry/2010/06/is-it-possible-to-have-a-civil-discussion-about-sexual-orientation.html" target="_blank">pointed to</a> in <a title="Ancient Hebrew Poetry" href="http://ancienthebrewpoetry.typepad.com/ancient_hebrew_poetry/" target="_blank">JohnFH</a>&#8216;s blog which I sometimes dip into (except for his Hebrew stuff which goes whizzing over my head).</p>
<p>The first is an <a title="Beliefnet - Richard B Hays article" href="http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christianity/2004/04/Homosexuality-Rebellion-Against-God.aspx?p=1" target="_blank">article by Richard B Hays</a> which is an adaptation of a lengthier book section. It is a pretty comprehensive statement of the conservative position on homosexuality. I recall reading the full book section in 2nd year New Testament studies and found it to be useful then. That was not long before General Assembly discussed the issue of human sexuality. The <a title="Mission and Discipleship GA 2007 report" href="http://www.churchofscotland.org.uk/extranet/xga/downloads/gareports07manddchallengetounity.doc" target="_blank">Mission and Discipleship report</a> (.doc file) and the congregation discussion resource <a title="Church of Scotland - Sexuality Resource" href="http://www.onekirk.org/Resources/sexuality_ressource_colour.pdf" target="_blank">document</a> (1.5M pdf file, via OneKirk) they produced drew heavily on this work for the conservative perspective. It was also at the heart of a &#8216;<a title="OneKirk - Bible Sexuality" href="http://www.onekirk.org/bible_sexuality.html" target="_blank">refutation</a>&#8216; at the time by Paul Middleton, but that work never fully engaged with Hays and so I was left feeling that it was a somewhat selective and not entirely convincing counter-argument.</p>
<p>The <a title="Faith and Theology blog - Kim Fabricius - Sexuality" href="http://faith-theology.blogspot.com/2007/01/twelve-propositions-on-same-sex.html" target="_blank">second referenced article is by Kim Fabricius</a> (on <a title="Faith and Theology blog" href="http://faith-theology.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Ben Myers blog</a>) is a useful &#8216;in a nutshell&#8217; view from the other side of the debate. The comments are extensive and worth a skim through. It is not a point-by-point argument and assumes a degree of &#8216;honest&#8217; scholarship which recognises the ambiguity in many of the scriptural references to homosexual activity. If that&#8217;s not your &#8216;place&#8217; then I would recommend doing some wider reading before decrying what Kim says. An &#8216;honest&#8217; approach will/should leave <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=64&amp;passage=Romans+1" class="bibleref" title="NIVUK Romans 1" target="_new">Romans 1</a> as one of the few &#8216;unambiguous&#8217; texts which need to be dealt with. Thereafter you may engage with his propositions and reach your own conclusion.</p>
<p>Finally, the <a title="ABC - The Drum" href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/05/28/2912395.htm?site=thedrum" target="_blank">third article referenced</a> is not a theology one, but rather a media comment on a recent sex scandal in Australia. It makes some very valid moral/ethical observations which, I think, are quite pertinent to the whole discussion.</p>
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		<title>8 months gone in a flash</title>
		<link>http://johnorr.me.uk/2010/05/30/8-months-gone-in-a-flash/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 18:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>There are times when life seems to pass by so quickly. That seems never more true than when you are on a placement. Uni term times whizz past, but they&#8217;re only ten weeks. Holidays whizz past, but they&#8217;re only a couple of weeks tops. Placements though are 8 months and when that last Sunday [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are times when life seems to pass by so quickly. That seems never more true than when you are on a placement. Uni term times whizz past, but they&#8217;re only ten weeks. Holidays whizz past, but they&#8217;re only a couple of weeks tops. Placements though are 8 months and when that last Sunday rolls round, as it did for me today, then 8 months seems to disappear in a flash.</p>
<p>It never seems long enough to get to know all the people you would wish to. It&#8217;s never long enough to get to know those you did as well as you should. It never seems long enough to cram in all that you would want to do with the safety net of a supervisor to hand.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said it before, but finishing up a placement is a strange time. Although the time does seem to flash past, 8 months is still a long time. It&#8217;s plenty of time to begin to get to know people&#8217;s stories; it&#8217;s plenty time to begin to build up emotional bonds with people; it&#8217;s plenty of time to really start to care for folks. So when it&#8217;s time to move on, it&#8217;s a wrench. But behind it all is the knowledge that it is only a part of the journey. Knowing that the move is inevitable means, for me anyway, that towards the end of the placement you cannot help but begin to look forward, to a place beyond the current placement. It means that when you do hit that end point you are already a little bit disconnected. It all adds to the strangeness of the whole process of formation for ministry.</p>
<p>What I do need to do now though is begin to think through what I&#8217;ve done, not just in this placement, but in all the others, and begin to work out what I need to focus on for probation. On this placement in particular I have felt that inexorable march towards ministry. It has been an opportunity to tick a handful more boxes on the &#8216;should have done&#8217; list. It has been an opportunity to refine skills and to keep working on the ones which are still very rough round the edges. It has been an opportunity to make mistakes knowing that, as a student, some allowances are made and that there is someone there to pick up the pieces if things went drastically wrong (which they never did, I think). It has also been an opportunity to experiment and test out ways of doing things, again knowing that an experienced voice is on hand to help analyse and critique in a positive way.</p>
<p>Of course, all of this means that a lovely bunch of people have to put up with a lot of the ups and downs as well. The congregation have been nothing if not supportive and understanding, gracious with feedback and encouraging in their comments. Many commented today that they too couldn&#8217;t believe 8 months had passed so quickly. (Perhaps that&#8217;s a blessed relief from their perspective.)</p>
<p>So now there is the small matter of a dissertation to write over the summer (now watch the time really disappear) with probation starting on the 1st of September. Given the speed with which time seems to fly by at the moment, maybe it&#8217;s time to start ringing those warning bells for when I get let loose on my own.</p>
<p>Oh yes, and there&#8217;s the &#8216;Not a licensing&#8217; Service of Recognition organised by the presbytery on the 24th of June, 7pm, Larbert East Church, where Andy and I will be given a slap on the back in acknowledgement of putting up with it all thus far.</p>
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		<title>Inspiration and brick walls</title>
		<link>http://johnorr.me.uk/2010/03/11/inspiration-and-brick-walls/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I was a conference yesterday about Emerging Church within the context of the Church of Scotland. It was both inspirational and frustrating. Some of the projects are doing fantastic work and really growing as &#8216;church&#8217; &#8211; and not just in the outreach work sense that I&#8217;ve been having a go at in recent posts. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a conference yesterday about Emerging Church within the context of the Church of Scotland. It was both inspirational and frustrating. Some of the projects are doing fantastic work and really growing as &#8216;church&#8217; &#8211; and not just in the outreach work sense that I&#8217;ve been having a go at in recent posts. We&#8217;re seeing embryonic communities which are growing into worshipping communities and then hitting brick walls. Many of these projects are reaching unchurched people and making Christian faith relevant and meaningful. And yet there is a sense of &#8216;so far and no further&#8217;.</p>
<p>And, unfortunately, it&#8217;s the Church of Scotland&#8217;s law and structures that are often the problem. That&#8217;s not to suggest that there aren&#8217;t people who are trying, often creatively, to provide solutions, but there was still an underlying sense of not taking Emerging Church seriously. If I may parody it somewhat, it seemed that there was a willingness to set up a working party to look at the questions that would need to be addressed by a committee who could produce a report to create a task force who would consult widely to produce a report that could go to a council and be presented to GA for consideration by presbyteries to ascertain whether there was support for changes to develop a new style of ministry.</p>
<p>Meanwhile community projects are being slapped on the wrist for overstepping parish boundaries or are unable to share the sacraments because their eminently qualified leader doesn&#8217;t have the &#8216;right sort&#8217; of theology degree and isn&#8217;t ordained. There was much talk about training and the need for a new focus on missional skills for ordained ministries. But I can&#8217;t help but feel that a more open approach to development of lay leaders or the already qualified members needs a better look at. Why do we allow someone to &#8216;preach and teach&#8217; at a youth club yet become very cagey when they might do it from the pulpit, as it were? There was also talk of a more modular approach to training, building on existing skills. So how about an approved &#8216;sacramental theology&#8217; bolt-on to make sure it&#8217;s all done above board and with theological rigour and that makes sure the appropriate box is ticked for church law? And maybe it&#8217;s time to get over the suspicion and angst about it that has persisted for several hundred years since the Reformation.</p>
<p>So, what&#8217;s the solution? A presbyterian church with flexible structures, &#8220;boundary blindness&#8221; (thanks to Peter Neilson for that one) when it comes to parishes and a real commitment to training its people to become the body of Christ in the community. And maybe a church that relaxes its ecclesiology and grasps more of the kingdom instead. Shouldn&#8217;t be too tall an order. Maybe a report to GA is called for.</p>
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		<title>Emerging thoughts</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been working my way through Emerging Churches, a very useful book giving a survey of what Emerging Church is all about. I came across a reflection from Doug Pagitt who sees three &#8216;types&#8217; of EC and one of them really struck a chord with me. He doesn&#8217;t see the church as &#8220;necessarily the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been working my way through <a title="Book Depository - Emerging Churches" href="http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9780281057917/Emerging-Churches" target="_blank"><em>Emerging Churches</em></a>, a very useful book giving a survey of what Emerging Church is all about. I came across a reflection from Doug Pagitt who sees three &#8216;types&#8217; of EC and one of them really struck a chord with me. He doesn&#8217;t see the church as &#8220;necessarily the center (sic) of God&#8217;s attentions&#8221; and that God is already at work in the world; the church &#8220;has the option to join God or not&#8221;.</p>
<p>As I read it I was reminded of an observation from Barth which I think I&#8217;ve previously mentioned &#8211; that the church has always been a minority. The implication is that it always will be, and that that&#8217;s no bad thing. In the light of Pagitt&#8217;s comments it even makes sense (to me anyway). It opens up the whole question of the purpose of the church. In a sense it only ever needs to be a minority if it sees its purpose as finding where God is at work and joining in. &#8216;Church&#8217; then becomes the place where church members are spiritually renewed and sustained and sent out to mission again. Their mission purpose is to make disciples of all nations. But does that need to mean growing a church congregation? OK, so it raises issues of &#8216;Christian imperialism&#8217; when we count those who are working for &#8216;the good&#8217; to be disciples, but then the issue is about the kingdom, and not the church. It also &#8216;meets the requirement&#8217; for the church to be &#8216;in the world, but not of it&#8217;. And it has a somewhat liberal, vaguely universalist, soteriology. But that&#8217;s just theology and a few proof texts will soon take care of that. <img src='http://johnorr.me.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But it also throws into question the whole issue of the EC movement. Is it actually necessary to establish churches to do mission work? The answer must be, &#8220;no,&#8221; but what then is EC for? It seems to me that EC is, in a sense, a by-product of missional work. Or, at least, it can be. It can also be a project in and of itself. Context is the key, I suppose.</p>
<p>It also raises some interesting questions for the Church of Scotland, particularly at this cash-strapped time and as it considers its ability to meet its Third Article and be a presence in every part of Scotland. Maybe by trying to be &#8216;church&#8217; everywhere it will never succeed; but as the missional bringer of the kingdom, that may be a different story. A lot of joined-up thinking required I think.</p>
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		<title>Another nudge in direction</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 19:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I had a very useful discussion last week with my academic supervisor. Very shortly I will have two research essays due and a presentation to do for what my dissertation will be about. All well and good if I knew where I was going, which is where the discussion ended up being very useful.</p> [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a very useful discussion last week with my academic supervisor. Very shortly I will have two research essays due and a presentation to do for what my dissertation will be about. All well and good if I knew where I was going, which is where the discussion ended up being very useful.</p>
<p><span id="more-628"></span>My last essay (from the Barth class) ended up being about &#8216;community&#8217;. Barth is very big on a Christian being called into a community. He pretty much says we can&#8217;t be Christians on our own. But more than that he has much to say about the fractured community that is the church catholic. The issue explored in the essay was whether Emerging Church adds to the fractured-ness or whether it exists within the church in the broad sense.</p>
<p>Anyway, the point was that it headed in a direction which I hadn&#8217;t really intended taking (I was originally more interested in the actual &#8216;theology&#8217; employed by EC) and so it left me with a bit of a dilemma. Did I continue looking at the broad picture of EC or focus in on their theology. Given that defining Emerging Church is a bit like trying to nail jelly to a wall, the thought of trying to get to grips with theological issues was not a particularly enthralling one.</p>
<p>So I was kind of stuck on which direction to go &#8211; until I had a chat with my supervisor, that is. I was keen to keep my interests in a local context and not get dragged too much into the US-centric view of EC, so the plan is now as follows:</p>
<p>Book review: <em>Emerging Churches</em>, Gibbs &amp; Bolger. This gives a good overview of what EC <em>is</em> in the US and UK. Lots of background material.</p>
<p>Essay 2: Having looked at one of the creedal marks of church (&#8216;one&#8217;) in the first essay, I wanted to look at &#8216;holy&#8217; in my next essay. Holy means &#8216;distinctiveness&#8217; and in the church context is about the distinction between the sacred and the profane. In the context of EC, it raises questions about whether EC simply regurgitates popular culture or whether it &#8216;sacrilises&#8217; it somehow.</p>
<p>Essay 3: The Church of Scotland have been keen to gather momentum in getting to grips with EC, particularly the idea of &#8216;mixed economy&#8217; church as expressed in Fresh Expressions. But not all expressions of EC sit comfortably within the CofS, especially its presbyterianism. Many ECs seem to veer heavily towards the congregational model or even attempt to remain &#8216;structureless&#8217;. This essay looks at which expressions of EC fit within the CofS polity.</p>
<p>Dissertation: Pick an EC project currently underway within the CofS and examine its &#8216;mission statement&#8217; or project proposal in light of the creedal marks of &#8216;one, holy, catholic and apostolic&#8217; church. (If nothing else, it gives me a clear structural  outline for the work.) To that end I also have a meeting with the CofS EC co-ordinator. Hopefully I will be able to get pointed to a usable project.</p>
<p>Just got to sit down and write all that now.</p>
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		<title>Contextual identity</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 11:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Last week I was in 121 at a seminar/conference thing organised by the Church of Scotland&#8217;s Church and Society Council. The topic was &#8220;Moral Maze on Virtualisation and Society&#8221; and was, ostensibly, a initial discussion into the morals and ethics of such phenomena as social networking and online role-play/immersion activities. The discussion topics were [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week I was in 121 at a seminar/conference thing organised by the Church of Scotland&#8217;s <a title="CofS - Church and Society Council" href="http://www.churchofscotland.org.uk/councils/churchsociety/index.htm" target="_blank">Church and Society Council</a>. The topic was &#8220;Moral Maze on Virtualisation and Society&#8221; and was, ostensibly, a initial discussion into the morals and ethics of such phenomena as social networking and online role-play/immersion activities. The discussion topics were billed as follows:</p>
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<li>How has virtualisation impacted on notions of identity?</li>
<li>How has virtualisation impacted on our values as human beings?</li>
<li>How has increased connectivity impacted on the nature of our organisations?</li>
<li>How has increased connectivity and virtualisation impacted on our ability to develop meaningful communities?</li>
<li>Is a regulatory framework desirable?</li>
<p>What are the theological implications of the changes being brought to individuals, to society and to organisations by increased connectivity and virtualisation?</p></blockquote>
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<p>This is all good stuff and very relevant in our technology-oriented world.</p>
<p><span id="more-621"></span>Overall, the day was interesting enough, with some very challenging issues raised about our use of such technology, our expectations of privacy and much else. However, I was left with the abiding impression that none of the advertised topics was adequately addressed, there was no clear direction for where it was all going and, depressingly, that there was a bit (more than a bit) of disconnection with the reality of the pace of change and the uses to which the technology was being put. I can see the panel ending up commenting on technology that has long since fallen out of favour or moved beyond how it is being used at the moment.</p>
<p>Anyway, that&#8217;s really by way of introduction to what I want to mull over. One of the ideas that was floated around was that of &#8216;contextual identity&#8217;. Virtualisation allows us to &#8216;be&#8217; different people in different places. Each of those personas is &#8216;real&#8217; regardless of their existence in cyberspace or &#8216;IRL&#8217;. They are &#8216;real&#8217; because they are an extension of who we are &#8211; we make them real because they are from us (arguably, part of our legacy of sharing in the task of creation when we named the animals) &#8211; and they are real because they have real consequences. Our virtual interactions with others will ultimately impact with a real person at the far end. We can be &#8216;different people&#8217; on a night out with the lads or sitting in church on a Sunday morning and virtualisation has simply been an extension of that. But it offers greater scope for identity adoption and it often offers the veneer of anonymity and impermanence. It&#8217;s easier than ever to be whoever we want to be.</p>
<p>There are the obvious issues raised about ethical integrity and moral behaviour but I want to pick up on the issue of self-identity. When we adopt a contextual identity, whether it is who we are sitting in the pub, or our character in WoW, it is an extension of who we are. It cannot be otherwise, surely? That&#8217;s not to say that it necessarily represents a &#8216;significant&#8217; part of who we are. It may be that tiny fraction of our personality that needs released every now and again for a bit of fun or it may be a large part of who we &#8216;are&#8217; and what is important to us. The problem is that we are very bad at making relative judgements and tend towards the absolute. For example, I like to blog about systematic theology, therefore I must be an &#8216;academic&#8217; with no understanding of real-life pastoral concerns. OK, bad example maybe. But joking aside, it&#8217;s an example of how one public persona could potentially be seen as representative of the whole person. Virtualisation compounds this problem with no discerning value-judgement being made on the &#8216;weight&#8217; of each contextual identity. Added to that there is the possibility of many, many contextual identities and there may be little or no knowledge of the others from the one being looked at (and evaluated).</p>
<p>These issues are, arguably, purely sociological, and that would be true. But they do have a theological or faith dimension. Not least because some of those contextual identities may well representing a person&#8217;s faith, or ethics, or morals. But there is also the issue of &#8216;self&#8217; and, from a Christian faith perspective, that is a theological issue.</p>
<p>Each of these contextual identities is real and so they are part of the real &#8216;us&#8217; &#8211; they define who we are. Each aspect may represent a greater or smaller fraction of the whole, but they are nevertheless &#8216;us&#8217;. Furthermore, if we acknowledge that we are &#8216;fallen&#8217; creatures then some (all) of those parts will be less than perfect. And it may well be that the &#8216;biggest&#8217; aspect of us that is seen (virtually or otherwise, but especially virtually) is the least perfect.</p>
<p>And so integrity of &#8216;self&#8217; becomes an issue. How de we ensure we are not misrepresented by those contextual identities and yet allow them to exist as part of who we are? But maybe that&#8217;s not our problem, but lies with others &#8211; how they perceive us, who they understand us to be given only the snapshots of us which appear in any given context. And therein lies another issue. We are not static beings. We grow, we learn, we change our minds, our views, our behaviour. Who we are is in a state of flux as we are moulded and shaped, brought down and raised back up again. Indeed the Christian belief in resurrection is not purely a future-focused one, but is a present reality as well. We are always in a time when we &#8216;die to self&#8217; and become more Christ-like.</p>
<p>Therefore, the Christian understanding of forgiveness becomes all the more relevant as well. In many respects the internet is like a very large elephant &#8211; it never forgets. There is no shortage of websites where archive snapshots can be found of all manner of online mutterings are preserved for posterity. Any information we put &#8216;out there&#8217; can be reused and further disseminated by others. Arguably it is no longer our own, but our fingerprints are still all over it. In a sense we cannot escape our virtual past and so our history, which is always bound into our sense of self, becomes more and more difficult to escape. But our past history, however influential on who we are now, is <em>not</em> who we are now. Christians, like everyone else, can be very good at dredging up the past but Christians should, out of anyone, be most aware of how that past can be set aside. If it were not so then Jesus stands for nothing and the cross is meaningless.</p>
<p>One final thought, and one that goes of on a bit of a tangent. Last Sunday evening I heard a sermon that got into a discussion of the nature of the Trinity. One picture offered was of a three-piece jigsaw, each part interlocking with the other two. It&#8217;s an unfortunate image in many respects, especially as the words used seemed to imply that each was &#8216;part&#8217; of the whole and somehow lesser when &#8216;separated&#8217;. But in critiquing it we have the same issue of &#8216;self&#8217; in the context of this discussion. We see these contextual identities somehow as individual parts of a jigsaw &#8211; not representative of the whole and incomplete without the rest of the pieces. But the problem is, like the relationship in the Trinity, there is no disconnectedness from the whole. Each piece may appear to exist in isolation, but that would be to misunderstand the nature of &#8216;self&#8217;. Each piece is shaped and formed by its relationship to the whole and so must contain some sense of the &#8216;whole&#8217; within the &#8216;part&#8217;. But does that mean that we can extrapolate the &#8216;whole&#8217; from the &#8216;part&#8217;? With the Godhead, yes, for it exists in perfect relationship. But for us, no, for our relationships, with one another and with &#8216;self&#8217;, are not perfect. But that, surely, is the challenge to who we are &#8211; to grow into better relationship and become more &#8216;integrated&#8217;. What, then, is the challenge to us for our contextual identity?</p>
<p>These are some of the things the seminar ought to have been addressing. Whether that&#8217;s the direction they are heading remains to be seen.</p>
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