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		<title>Of blue parakeets and Bibles</title>
		<link>http://johnorr.me.uk/2011/01/10/of-blue-parakeets-and-bibles/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 23:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve just finished Scot McKnight&#8217;s book, The Blue Parakeet and have thoroughly enjoyed it, both as a challenge and an affirmation. His basic premise is that we all read the Bible with our own bias and preconceptions &#8211; and we should all be honest about that. Nothing new there really &#8211; except perhaps the call <a href='http://johnorr.me.uk/2011/01/10/of-blue-parakeets-and-bibles/' class='excerpt-more'>[...]</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just finished Scot McKnight&#8217;s book, <a title="Amazon - The Blue Parakeet" href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Blue-Parakeet-Rethinking-Read-Bible/dp/B001UFMUDY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1294696974&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank">The Blue Parakeet</a> and have thoroughly enjoyed it, both as a challenge and an affirmation. His basic premise is that we all read the Bible with our own bias and preconceptions &#8211; and we should all be honest about that. Nothing new there really &#8211; except perhaps the call for honesty from all readers and interpreters.</p>
<p><span id="more-782"></span>The &#8216;blue parakeets&#8217; of the title are those loud, squawking, irritating bits of scripture we prefer to gloss over or ignore &#8211; or, as McKnight puts it, tame and cage. They are the bits of scripture that don&#8217;t fit neatly into our own system, that challenge our preferred understanding and generally run the risk of putting holes in our favourite arguments.</p>
<p>The first half of the book sets out the various approaches typically taken by Bible readers and interpreters. It&#8217;s a necessarily condensed characterisation but the general thrust is that there are those (at least among those who still take scripture seriously) who stick with what the Bible says as valid for all time, those who read the Bible through the lens of their particular denominational or theological &#8216;creeds&#8217; and those who seek to read scripture in a way that is sympathetic to their tradition but acknowledge the need for &#8216;contemporising&#8217; their understanding. He offers further, narrower characterisations within, particularly, the first category &#8211; for example, those who read the Bible as a &#8216;rule book&#8217; or those who see only a series of blessings or rewards.</p>
<p>It is into the last category (the contemporising one) I would place myself. And in particular, a preference for what might be described as a fairly post-modern approach. However, I don&#8217;t believe that that has to mean that the Bible can be interpreted in any way one chooses. I&#8217;ve written about this before and mentioned my appreciation for the literary approach of Stanley Fish and his &#8216;interpretive communities&#8217;. In essence, our interpretations of any literature will always be coloured and bounded by the community within which we find ourselves reading that work. In other words, our church upbringing is going to place the limits on our interpretation of the Bible &#8211; always allowing for a bit of pushing the boundaries of course.</p>
<p>Although McKnight doesn&#8217;t mention &#8216;interpretive communities&#8217;, that would be my understanding of what he is getting at. But the point McKnight makes takes it a stage further, into an area I hadn&#8217;t really appreciated but see as being a necessary and logical extension. Not only does our interpretive community provide the &#8216;boundary&#8217; conditions, if we are honest in our intention of being part of that community, we must use that tradition actively in our engagement with scripture. But that active engagement is a two-way street. We must bring our faith tradition to bear on our Biblical interpretation, but also allow our reading of scripture to push the boundaries of that tradition. And the crucial thing is that that faith tradition is one which is also affected by and interacts with contemporary culture and society and cannot help but be shaped by it.</p>
<p>Sympathetic contemporising is done with regard to the faith tradition, but acknowledges its changing nature &#8211; changes that come about through its mission to remain relevant in a changing world. And the point that McKnight makes is that this ever-changing re-interpretation of God&#8217;s will is the story of the Bible. It is a book, or series of stories, which charts the continuing reinterpretation of God&#8217;s guidance and will in ever-changing circumstances. Of course there is the unchanging meta-narrative of creation, fall, exile, reconciliation but all else is contemporary re-interpretation.</p>
<p>The second half of the book uses the issue of women in ministry to show how some interpretations of scripture have failed to appreciate this changing interpretation and have made the Bible into a stagnant rule book. I won&#8217;t rehearse the arguments here, but I believe them to be fair.</p>
<p>But it leads me to the point I really wanted to make and the point which has struck me as I was reading the book.</p>
<p>If we accept that the Bible is the witness to a continuously-varying contextualisation and contemporising of God&#8217;s will (and I am persuaded that it is) then it places in interesting imperative on the church, its leadership and its theologians.</p>
<p>It seems to me that the purpose of the Bible then is not to be a source of blindly-applied rules, but rather a model for sacrilising the profane. In other words, in each and every age, we need to look at contemporary culture and work out where God is in that. The places we find God must then be celebrated, applauded and encouraged. And, of course, where we don&#8217;t find God, we seek to effect change.</p>
<p>But what are we looking for?</p>
<p>Once again I find myself in agreement with McKnight as he points out what God is &#8216;about&#8217; &#8211; restoration to wholeness of individuals with themselves, with each other, with creation and, of course, with God.</p>
<p>And he makes one further challenging point &#8211; our model for wholeness is pre-fall (however we wish to read <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=64&amp;passage=Genesis+1+%2C+2" class="bibleref" title="NIVUK Genesis 1 , 2" target="_new">Genesis 1 &amp; 2</a>). Everything else up until Christ is a fallen model &#8211; so why are we using it? With Jesus, we are renewed, in a new community, enlivened and encouraged by the Spirit, who gifts us with discernment &#8211; discernment to see God at work in creation, in relationships, in communities. Again, why reduce that to following a set of rules from a fallen era?</p>
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		<title>The Nativity</title>
		<link>http://johnorr.me.uk/2010/12/21/the-nativity/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 21:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#8217;s been plenty of chat on Facebook and on blogs about the new dramatisation of the nativity on the BBC. I&#8217;ve seen the first two and have been pleasantly surprised. Obviously it&#8217;s highly speculative, but in seeking to tell the human story behind the events so well-known to Christians, it has, I think, brought a <a href='http://johnorr.me.uk/2010/12/21/the-nativity/' class='excerpt-more'>[...]</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s been plenty of chat on Facebook and on blogs about the <a title="The Nativity - BBC" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00x15ny" target="_blank">new dramatisation of the nativity on the BBC</a>. I&#8217;ve seen the first two and have been pleasantly surprised. Obviously it&#8217;s highly speculative, but in seeking to tell the human story behind the events so well-known to Christians, it has, I think, brought a fresh dimension to it.</p>
<p>I think when we visit the story we focus so much on the &#8216;Christian&#8217; aspects (because that is, rightly so, the important part for believers) that we forget there is a very human story there. Can we really expect Joseph to just accept, unquestioningly, what he has been told in a dream, regardless of how devout he may be? Putting the human face on the story makes it, I would suggest, even more &#8216;believable&#8217;.</p>
<p>Of course, that assumes the historicity of events in the first instance and I was interested to discover that one of my former lecturers at new College was an historical advisor to the programme. Dr Helen Bond writes about her take on the adaptation <a title="CSCO - The Nativity" href="http://cscoedinburgh.wordpress.com/2010/12/21/the-nativity/" target="_blank">here</a>. She makes the wise observation that the historical accuracy is, in a sense, a secondary consideration, because it is the story in all its dimensions &#8211; the theological, the historical, the human &#8211; that is important. To separate out the parts may make for a more acceptable story to the more &#8216;rational&#8217;- or &#8216;secularly&#8217;-minded, but it is only as a whole that it makes sense, because it is a story which must, by virtue of it being a story of faith, contain all of those elements.</p>
<p>The Nativity helps, I would suggest, give that nudge back towards remembering the human story behind it all.</p>
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		<title>Missing the obvious</title>
		<link>http://johnorr.me.uk/2010/09/03/missing-the-obvious/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 18:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sometimes I think I must be excruciatingly dim and I have to wonder why I ever felt I ought to respond to a call to ministry. I was reading a post on one of my favourite blogs earlier and came across these words: The entire trajectory of Scripture points to a kaleidoscopic people of God, <a href='http://johnorr.me.uk/2010/09/03/missing-the-obvious/' class='excerpt-more'>[...]</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I think I must be excruciatingly dim and I have to wonder why I ever felt I ought to respond to a call to ministry. I was reading <a title="Internet Monk - With all due respect" href="http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/with-all-due-respect-2" target="_blank">a post</a> on one of my favourite blogs earlier and came across these words:</p>
<blockquote><p>The entire trajectory of Scripture points to a kaleidoscopic people of God, ever  more diverse, with always surprising revelations of unlikely people using their  gifts in unexpected and even subversive ways to encourage the family and bless  the world.</p></blockquote>
<p>A simple enough statement but about something that has just whooshed past me without me noticing. It&#8217;s such an obvious statement about the witness of scripture that I can&#8217;t help but feel somewhat dim for only just noticing it.</p>
<p>Of course, as for the implications&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Bible in 5 statements</title>
		<link>http://johnorr.me.uk/2009/12/22/bible-in-5-statements/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stewart has challenged me to: Summarize the Bible in five statements, the first one word long, the second two, the third three, the fourth four and the last five words long. Or possibly you could do this in descending order. Tag five people. So… here goes… Witness God&#8217;s Love Humanity turns away Jesus died for <a href='http://johnorr.me.uk/2009/12/22/bible-in-5-statements/' class='excerpt-more'>[...]</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stewart has challenged me to:</p>
<blockquote><p>Summarize the Bible in five statements, the first one word long, the second two, the third three, the fourth four and the last five words long. Or possibly you could do this in descending order. Tag five people.</p></blockquote>
<p>So… here goes…</p>
<p><strong>Witness</strong></p>
<p><strong>God&#8217;s Love</strong></p>
<p><strong>Humanity turns away</strong></p>
<p><strong>Jesus died for everyone</strong></p>
<p><strong>Live in forgiveness and faith</strong></p>
<p>I tag:</p>
<p><a title="Minister? Me?" href="http://exploringmycall.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Mrs Gerbil</a></p>
<p><a title="Nelu's blog" href="http://ulen.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">Nelu</a></p>
<p><a title="Daniel's Think tank" href="http://dmthinktank.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">Daniel</a></p>
<p><a title="Davidkhr" href="http://davidkhr.wordpress.com/">David</a></p>
<p><a title="Nodrog's worship stuff" href="http://nodrogsworship.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Dave</a></p>
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		<title>Oooo &#8211; pretty</title>
		<link>http://johnorr.me.uk/2009/11/13/oooo-pretty/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, not a shiny new sports car or fancy techno-toy, but a Bible. An NLT Mosaic Bible to be precise. Actually, to be even more precise, the &#8216;deluxe&#8217; version: I ordered one a little while back and collected it today. And very pretty it is too. Lots of &#8216;niceness&#8217; about it, including dictionary/concordance, Hebrew and <a href='http://johnorr.me.uk/2009/11/13/oooo-pretty/' class='excerpt-more'>[...]</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, not a shiny new sports car or fancy techno-toy, but a Bible. An NLT Mosaic Bible to be precise. Actually, to be even more precise, the &#8216;deluxe&#8217; version:</p>
<p><a title="Mosaic Bible - cover" href="http://johnorr.me.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/DSC0580.jpg" rel="lightbox[562]"><img class="attachment wp-att-563 " src="http://johnorr.me.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/DSC0580.thumbnail.jpg" alt="Mosaic Bible - cover" width="200" height="133" align="none" /></a></p>
<p>I ordered one a little while back and collected it today. And very pretty it is too. Lots of &#8216;niceness&#8217; about it, including dictionary/concordance, Hebrew and Greek word studies, centre-column cross-reference and a huge section of devotional material including full-colour artwork. Did I mention it was very pretty? Some sample pages below and you can get more info at Tyndale&#8217;s <a title="Tyndale - Holy Bible: Mosaic" href="http://holybiblemosaic.com/" target="_blank">Mosaic website</a>.</p>
<p><a title="Sample page 1" href="http://johnorr.me.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/DSC0587.jpg" rel="lightbox[562]"><img class="attachment wp-att-564 " style="margin-left: 3px; margin-right: 3px;" src="http://johnorr.me.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/DSC0587.thumbnail.jpg" alt="Sample page 1" width="200" height="133" align="none" /></a><a title="Sample page 2" href="http://johnorr.me.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/DSC0620.jpg" rel="lightbox[562]"><img class="attachment wp-att-565 " style="margin-left: 3px; margin-right: 3px;" src="http://johnorr.me.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/DSC0620.thumbnail.jpg" alt="Sample page 2" width="200" height="133" align="none" /></a><a title="Sample page 3" href="http://johnorr.me.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/DSC0606.jpg" rel="lightbox[562]"><img class="attachment wp-att-566 " style="margin-left: 3px; margin-right: 3px;" src="http://johnorr.me.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/DSC0606.thumbnail.jpg" alt="Sample page 3" width="200" height="133" align="none" /></a></p>
<p>And no, I&#8217;m not on any commission, just very impressed by a beautiful book made more beautiful.</p>
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		<title>Confusion</title>
		<link>http://johnorr.me.uk/2009/01/20/confusion/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve uploaded the short talk I used for my speech training session to the downloads page (and fixed the non-working downloads while there). It&#8217;s called &#8216;Confusion&#8217; and is a slightly different take on John 4 and Jesus&#8217; encounter with the Samaritan woman at the well. It developed out of a passing thought as I was <a href='http://johnorr.me.uk/2009/01/20/confusion/' class='excerpt-more'>[...]</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve uploaded the short talk I used for my speech training session to the <a title="OrrWhat? Downloads" href="http://johnorr.me.uk/downloads/">downloads page</a> (and fixed the non-working downloads while there). It&#8217;s called &#8216;Confusion&#8217; and is a slightly different take on <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=64&amp;passage=John+4" class="bibleref" title="NIVUK John 4" target="_new">John 4</a> and Jesus&#8217; encounter with the Samaritan woman at the well. It developed out of a passing thought as I was preparing for this Sunday.</p>
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		<title>Oh what a mystery I see</title>
		<link>http://johnorr.me.uk/2008/12/17/oh-what-a-mystery-i-see/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve heard many conversations this advent about the &#8216;real&#8217; Christmas story. I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s simply a fashionable trend or whether there are more people genuinely seeking answers, but it&#8217;s been surprising how many conversations there have been that including such statements as &#8220;There was no donkey!&#8221; or &#8220;It wasn&#8217;t actually a stable!&#8221; or <a href='http://johnorr.me.uk/2008/12/17/oh-what-a-mystery-i-see/' class='excerpt-more'>[...]</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard many conversations this advent about the &#8216;real&#8217; Christmas story. I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s simply a fashionable trend or whether there are more people genuinely seeking answers, but it&#8217;s been surprising how many conversations there have been that including such statements as &#8220;There was no donkey!&#8221; or &#8220;It wasn&#8217;t actually a stable!&#8221; or &#8220;There might have been three gifts, but three men is only an assumption.&#8221;</p>
<p>In one respect such discussions are interesting because it gives you an opportunity explore the &#8216;real&#8217; story a bit more. But I wonder if puncturing the &#8216;mythology&#8217; that has grown up around the Christmas story is altogether valuable. When we assume three wise men or conflate the timing of wise men and shepherds or have Mary travelling on a non-existent donkey, does it really undermine any fundamental doctrines or Christian &#8216;truths&#8217;? By allowing &#8216;stories&#8217; to grow around these events do we not, rather, encourage a greater sense of involvement and ownership in those who hear and retell these stories? So long, of course, as the underlying gospel is faithfully represented.</p>
<p>On the other hand, by exploring and exposing some of the accepted wisdom in the traditional interpretations, there is opportunity to reveal further colour in the stories. On Sunday past, at my placement church, there was the third in a short series of advent reflections &#8211; myrrh, the other two being gold and frankincense (the 4th Sunday being given over to the junior church nativity service). The &#8216;traditional&#8217; teaching on the gift of myrrh is that it is looking ahead to Jesus&#8217; death as it is often used as an embalming ointment. However, Stuart began his sermon with an &#8216;all you never knew about myrrh&#8217; presentation. I must confess to wondering where it was going and he duly went &#8211; myrrh has just has many uses, in fact more, for the living as for the dead and so myrrh could just as easily be a reminder of some of the many facets of Jesus. Myrrh has healing properties, it soothes, it takes away the stench of decay. When we explore the &#8216;story&#8217; and even allow other stories to come into play, we unwrap a few more layers and thereby show the depth of meaning behind the simple &#8216;facts&#8217;.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s another thing that stories do. Facts explain things. Facts tell us where limits are. They provide &#8216;data&#8217;. Stories bring colour and depth and vibrancy. They bring out meaning and yet can also shroud in mystery. How can mere facts reveal the mystery of a virgin birth, God incarnate as a baby or the sense of wonder experienced by those who came to worship?</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;d rather see the mystery than the trivia, interesting though it may be.</p>
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