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	<description>Random mutterings and musings of mine - a work in progress</description>
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		<title>Comment on Let me just repeat that. by Freda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They will probably change in the preaching, according to the reaction and the congregation. Someone once told me if a sermon is worth preaching once it&#039;s worth preaching again. Happy service-taking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They will probably change in the preaching, according to the reaction and the congregation. Someone once told me if a sermon is worth preaching once it&#8217;s worth preaching again. Happy service-taking.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Let me just repeat that. by Mrs Gerbil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs Gerbil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 07:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have used the same sermon twice - once in my home church while the worship group were leading worship and once in my first CFA placement. They are diverse congregations and I knew no one on the second performance would have heard it first time around. Also, it was just a week after my operation, so I wasn&#039;t in a fit state to write another sermon.

Besides, my minister told me shortly after this that a sermon has to be preached 30 (!) times to have effect...I think that was according to Calvin.

Give yourself a break. Different congregations react to the same service in different ways. Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used the same sermon twice &#8211; once in my home church while the worship group were leading worship and once in my first CFA placement. They are diverse congregations and I knew no one on the second performance would have heard it first time around. Also, it was just a week after my operation, so I wasn&#8217;t in a fit state to write another sermon.</p>
<p>Besides, my minister told me shortly after this that a sermon has to be preached 30 (!) times to have effect&#8230;I think that was according to Calvin.</p>
<p>Give yourself a break. Different congregations react to the same service in different ways. Good luck.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Let me just repeat that. by Spotthegerbil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spotthegerbil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You would not be the first, and you certainly won&#039;t be the last locum to reuse a service, either in whole or in part.
 
It&#039;s not cheating.  Consider it a form of recycling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would not be the first, and you certainly won&#8217;t be the last locum to reuse a service, either in whole or in part.<br />
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It&#8217;s not cheating.  Consider it a form of recycling.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Let me just repeat that. by Nik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, yes, I was doing locum July and August and trying to write my 25-30 000 words - it was a case of very bad decision making, lol!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, yes, I was doing locum July and August and trying to write my 25-30 000 words &#8211; it was a case of very bad decision making, lol!!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Christian clones by nik</title>
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		<dc:creator>nik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Different is scary and obviously just CAN&#039;T be right... so &#039;we&#039; use the term &#039;them&#039; or the word &#039;other&#039; and start the process of dehumanising/ scapegoating.  If &#039;they&#039; aren&#039;t like &#039;us&#039;, might as well let &#039;them&#039; know &#039;they&#039; are wrong... and heck, why bother with a discussion - that&#039;s only for intelligent people like &#039;us&#039; - &#039;we&#039; will just impose &#039;our&#039; majority view - after all might is right... and if &#039;we&#039; can clothe &#039;our&#039; naked prejudice in robes of right-sounding righteousness, even better.
&#039;kingdom&#039; values - in the sense of desire for power and hierarchy... and not &lt;em&gt;&#039;kindom&#039;&lt;/em&gt; values - in the sense that we are all brothers and sisters diverse and wonderfully made in the image of One who created and loves us and calls us to the family table to eat, drink, share, love, be grace-filled people, and live abundantly....
Although, on the subject of clones, I now have running through my head that scene from &#039;The Life of Brian&#039; where he tells the crowd - &#039;you&#039;re all individuals - say it!&#039;
To which the crowd respond in unison, in a trance-like way... &#039;yes, we are all individuals&#039;... and a lone individual says: &#039;I&#039;m not&#039; ;)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Different is scary and obviously just CAN&#8217;T be right&#8230; so &#8216;we&#8217; use the term &#8216;them&#8217; or the word &#8216;other&#8217; and start the process of dehumanising/ scapegoating.  If &#8216;they&#8217; aren&#8217;t like &#8216;us&#8217;, might as well let &#8216;them&#8217; know &#8216;they&#8217; are wrong&#8230; and heck, why bother with a discussion &#8211; that&#8217;s only for intelligent people like &#8216;us&#8217; &#8211; &#8216;we&#8217; will just impose &#8216;our&#8217; majority view &#8211; after all might is right&#8230; and if &#8216;we&#8217; can clothe &#8216;our&#8217; naked prejudice in robes of right-sounding righteousness, even better.<br />
&#8216;kingdom&#8217; values &#8211; in the sense of desire for power and hierarchy&#8230; and not <em>&#8216;kindom&#8217;</em> values &#8211; in the sense that we are all brothers and sisters diverse and wonderfully made in the image of One who created and loves us and calls us to the family table to eat, drink, share, love, be grace-filled people, and live abundantly&#8230;.<br />
Although, on the subject of clones, I now have running through my head that scene from &#8216;The Life of Brian&#8217; where he tells the crowd &#8211; &#8216;you&#8217;re all individuals &#8211; say it!&#8217;<br />
To which the crowd respond in unison, in a trance-like way&#8230; &#8216;yes, we are all individuals&#8217;&#8230; and a lone individual says: &#8216;I&#8217;m not&#8217; <img src='http://johnorr.me.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
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		<title>Comment on Christian clones by David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like a fascinating visit, John. Lots to consider.
Christian Clones are something I find dwell in my worst nightmares. All of us conforming to a given (by God, of course) set of creeds and confessions (should they be singular ??) It certainly wasn&#039;t the early church model and, as you say, not the model from creation itself. And yet... Christ talks of us being one. And I know what you&#039;ll say to me.... the rest of the qutation should be read too, (and you&#039;re right) as the Father and I are one. If Trinity is the right model for God, then we have diversity in unity and your quote is quite right. On the other hand, there are almost always reasons for division too. Not all beliefs can be correct, and there is a need to be always in need of reform. I quite like that idea. An acknowledgement that we are pilgrims on a journey and that we need to learn from each other along the way. (I&#039;m not talking of universalism here, by the way)
Enough deep thinking fro one night. Have just vegetated in front of Argentina/Greece and thinking of joining the Slovenia supporters group.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a fascinating visit, John. Lots to consider.<br />
Christian Clones are something I find dwell in my worst nightmares. All of us conforming to a given (by God, of course) set of creeds and confessions (should they be singular ??) It certainly wasn&#8217;t the early church model and, as you say, not the model from creation itself. And yet&#8230; Christ talks of us being one. And I know what you&#8217;ll say to me&#8230;. the rest of the qutation should be read too, (and you&#8217;re right) as the Father and I are one. If Trinity is the right model for God, then we have diversity in unity and your quote is quite right. On the other hand, there are almost always reasons for division too. Not all beliefs can be correct, and there is a need to be always in need of reform. I quite like that idea. An acknowledgement that we are pilgrims on a journey and that we need to learn from each other along the way. (I&#8217;m not talking of universalism here, by the way)<br />
Enough deep thinking fro one night. Have just vegetated in front of Argentina/Greece and thinking of joining the Slovenia supporters group&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Glutton for punishment by Martin Ritchie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Ritchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 22:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blaze that trail John!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blaze that trail John!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Glutton for punishment by nik</title>
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		<dc:creator>nik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 17:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh that&#039;s great news John - yay!
I am loving the experimental and flexible approach to the way placements and probations are being looked at these days...  I have also had some cool news, but will tell you tomorrow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh that&#8217;s great news John &#8211; yay!<br />
I am loving the experimental and flexible approach to the way placements and probations are being looked at these days&#8230;  I have also had some cool news, but will tell you tomorrow!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Glutton for punishment by John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve no doubt it&#039;ll be featuring on the blog in due course.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve no doubt it&#8217;ll be featuring on the blog in due course.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Glutton for punishment by Stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh.  Be interested to hear how it goes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh.  Be interested to hear how it goes&#8230;</p>
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